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by Tsavo
Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:05 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

Thanks for typing that out. I do in-hand flexions also. When it is correct I call it "correct". When you get a correct flexion you may call it "movement at occiput-C1". Same result. When it is incorrect and producing motion at C1-C2, I call it "tilting" followed by &quo...
by Tsavo
Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:10 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

But how exactly would you change your aiding based on knowing the anatomy of flexion at the poll in order to get a correct flexion? How would you aiding change? What would you do with seat leg and hand differently? Well, I would probably take stock of the rest of the horse's body and see if alignme...
by Tsavo
Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:06 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

Conformation is the sum of individual variances of the anatomy of a horse. So, why is this important? Because based on the conformation of the horse, I can make informed decisions about equipment and equipment position, particularly in longing, that makes me a better trainer. I can also make inform...
by Tsavo
Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:37 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

kande50 wrote:
Tsavo wrote:
If anatomical knowledge was helpful Deb Bennett would be the best rider and trainer in the world.


Really? If someone with extensive anatomical knowledge isn't the best rider in the world then anatomical knowledge couldn't possibly be helpful? :-)
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Correct.
by Tsavo
Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:36 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

So, yes. I think knowing the anatomy of the horse is important to ride AND care for your animal. Can you give an example of how you did some aspect of riding differently once you knew the anatomy? khall wrote: Also a tidbit from JK during one of her lectures, true lateral flexion is at C1/occiput n...
by Tsavo
Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:26 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

khall wrote:Obviously other riders are as geeky as I and want to better understand the equine anatomy:

http://www.horsesinsideout.com/dissections.html


Nothing wrong with that. I also have academic hobbies.
by Tsavo
Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:25 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

tsavo don't you work out with a trainer? Does that trainer target certain areas at different times depending on what you are wanting to achieve (i.e. stronger core etc)? Don't you think that trainer knows what muscles to target? Is that not based on dissection, even if the trainer did not dissect t...
by Tsavo
Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:01 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

But how exactly would you change your aiding based on knowing the anatomy of flexion at the poll in order to get a correct flexion? How would you aiding change? What would you do with seat leg and hand differently? Occasionally in rehab my horse couldn't flex. I got off and flexed him in hand. When ...
by Tsavo
Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:24 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

I didn't know about those facts and here is my horse clearly flexed right. How does knowing those anatomical facts change how you ride? How exactly do those facts change what you do to get a flexion? This reminds me of the footfall threads wherein I tried to make the distinction between the thing an...
by Tsavo
Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:37 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

Not sure why you feel the need to be condescending about this. I don't know where you got condescending from. There is obvious academic value in attending dissections. Your use of "majicked". No one is claiming magic, and there is a difference between magic and useful knowledge. And the s...
by Tsavo
Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:10 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

musical comedy wrote:
Tsavo wrote:If anatomical knowledge was helpful Deb Bennett would be the best rider and trainer in the world.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Can't help myself, this is funny.


Am I right or am I right?!?!? LOL
by Tsavo
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:05 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

Dissection is not "majikal" tsavo, it is science and curiosity. Jillian K worked with Hilary Clayton (I do believe you are a HC aficionado?) who I am sure has done many dissections to further her learning. I know Jillian has done dissections. It is information that we can learn from as ri...
by Tsavo
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:01 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

Not sure why you feel the need to be condescending about this. I don't know where you got condescending from. There is obvious academic value in attending dissections. I am just projecting my focus on riding and training onto the topic and suggesting that if that is the focus then an academic pursu...
by Tsavo
Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

I just think it stands to reason that if books and dissections majicked better proprioception, tact, and timing, everyone would be at GP. If there was some other way besides wet saddle pads and thoughtful experimentation we would know it by now. The world is still waiting.
by Tsavo
Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:42 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

If doing dissections helped then it would be included in riding schools. And people who did dissections would be advancing faster than those who didn't. How much money would anyone here bet on that outcome?
by Tsavo
Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:41 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

I think the proprioception required to ride a large animal with effective and largely imperceptible aids is a different issue front an artistic genius. An apt analogy would be if an athlete, especially a golfer, would get better from doing human dissections. I think that query answers itself.
by Tsavo
Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Learning from dissection
Replies: 37
Views: 259

Re: Learning from dissection

I am not a biologist but I suspect, like book reading, doing dissections never moved any needle on improving ridng.
by Tsavo
Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:15 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?
Replies: 133
Views: 2509

Re: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?

Given his history I would have expected him to be more defensive of his back than he appears so I think whatever you are doing is helping him.
by Tsavo
Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:12 pm
Forum: Breeding, Registries & Conformation
Topic: Is this person high? In re horse growth
Replies: 22
Views: 269

Re: Is this person high? In re horse growth

It has been scientifically shown that all breeds require 7 years to finish growing. They all mature the same way, with the same growth plates maturing in the same time frame. Studies of thousands of horses have shown that they receive 95% of their growth height at 22 months. In my opinion any devia...
by Tsavo
Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:02 pm
Forum: The Observation Lounge
Topic: Does your horse use gestures to communicate with you?
Replies: 14
Views: 196

Re: Does your horse use gestures to communicate with you?

My horse will stand statue-still and give me a soul-stealing stare to indicate a treat is required.
by Tsavo
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:37 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: For *controversial* inspiration or discussion. :)
Replies: 21
Views: 324

Re: For *controversial* inspiration or discussion. :)

I never watched this pair before. There is something special between them in my opinion. The judges must be viewing the mouth action as chewing and not lack of submission because she would get gigged on every movement for lack of submission and would not score highly. Or it is lack of submission and...
by Tsavo
Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:53 pm
Forum: Breeding, Registries & Conformation
Topic: Is this person high? In re horse growth
Replies: 22
Views: 269

Re: Is this person high? In re horse growth

It has been scientifically shown that all breeds require 7 years to finish growing. They all mature the same way, with the same growth plates maturing in the same time frame. Studies of thousands of horses have shown that they receive 95% of their growth height at 22 months. In my opinion any devia...
by Tsavo
Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:34 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot
Replies: 36
Views: 557

Re: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot

I think this was taken at the clinic you audited. I can't hear the instruction, nor figure out the pupose of the exercise. I'm going to guess that the rider needs to be more supple on her outside rein. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RC4TATwnjQ I think you are correct about this. It seems to me sh...
by Tsavo
Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:34 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot
Replies: 36
Views: 557

Re: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot

Chisamba wrote:No , I meant von Dietz. Has anyone seen her post perfectly


Post of the month nomination. :o
by Tsavo
Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:21 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot
Replies: 36
Views: 557

Re: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot

The other thing that I think my not be clear is that my picture really doesn't illustrate the point. I think many people are vertical at the top of the post. I think the point is leaning forward to get to the top versus not doing that. I try to stay vertical at all times in the posting trot. This ta...
by Tsavo
Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:13 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot
Replies: 36
Views: 557

Re: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot

MC, imagine reins that are too long and then you post. If you don't allow the reins to go slack, your elbows can be behind your body at the top. Imagine my reins in the picture I posted being several nches longer with no slack. That would require my elbows to be behind my torso. By the way, I think ...
by Tsavo
Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:00 pm
Forum: The Observation Lounge
Topic: Do you believe in Karma, Guardian Angel, other?
Replies: 11
Views: 265

Re: Do you believe in Karma, Guardian Angel, other?

IMO, this should be required reading in every school until every single student understands it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge Great post. Nobody was ever able to claim the prize. I refer to this very often. We as a society need to teach skepticism, critical t...
by Tsavo
Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:19 pm
Forum: The Observation Lounge
Topic: Do you believe in Karma, Guardian Angel, other?
Replies: 11
Views: 265

Re: Do you believe in Karma, Guardian Angel, other?

I believe in the power of no prayer whatsoever. I wish karma was real.
by Tsavo
Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:44 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot
Replies: 36
Views: 557

Re: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot

sha.jpg I hope to hell I was doing something here given my whack hands and him kicking up dust behind. I like his head and tail positions in this photo. They are correct... head slightly IFOV and tail carried a little away from the body. This was two or three years ago and while I was getting fit t...
by Tsavo
Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:14 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?
Replies: 133
Views: 2509

Re: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?

Am I understanding folks to be suggesting that abscesses tend to occur more in warm months? That is completely not the case with my horse. The first one was in a Calgary winter. The last one was in a North Carolina winter. The other ones I don't remember when. I am grateful for the last one although...
by Tsavo
Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:03 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot
Replies: 36
Views: 557

Re: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot

The USDF Rider Test wants the torso slightly in front of the vertical when doing rising trot. Scroll down to the bottom of link. Of course, this is again only the opinion of USDF, so take that for what it's worth. https://www.usef.org/forms-pubs/0-C5_tWez00/training-level-rider-test That is consist...
by Tsavo
Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:35 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot
Replies: 36
Views: 557

Re: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot

MC I read what you wrote. She is clearly using some of the same material in both books.

I agree she is possibly being a little inconsistent. Vertical torso in the posting either is or isn't something everyone should shoot for and accomplish given enough effort irrespective of rider anatomy.
by Tsavo
Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:30 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot
Replies: 36
Views: 557

Re: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot

What did your instructor say? Were you getting left behind the motion or was the instructor of the opinion that a more forward position be used for posting, or something else? May instructor told me in the last lesson or two that I need to use the sit phase a little more, and I think being close to...
by Tsavo
Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:02 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot
Replies: 36
Views: 557

Re: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot

Well, I was thinking this morning about making a post (ha!) about posting trot, so can it be this one? I'll be brave and put up some video for critique tonight. Assuming the rider is balanced enough to not be pulling herself up by the reins, or plopping harshly into the saddle, what are the common ...
by Tsavo
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:02 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot
Replies: 36
Views: 557

Re: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot

Yes I realize she qualified the comment to death but I don't recall her saying that about other things. She said it about posting trot though.
by Tsavo
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:05 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot
Replies: 36
Views: 557

About that S von Dietze comment about posting trot

I got my book back and looked up the quote. I can't remember what MC said about my recollection of the quote but this is a direct quote from "Balance in Movement", p. 147... "Only very few good riders really master the rising trot to perfection." Hence my not so tongue in cheek p...
by Tsavo
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:03 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?
Replies: 133
Views: 2509

Re: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?

I did the first thing that I can credibly call a hill day today since last August. W/T/C. And just because he felt good I experimented with laterals... SI up and travers down in walk. He had no issue with this. Because of that I am going to add lateral work on the flat in trot and canter now. I am p...
by Tsavo
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:32 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?
Replies: 133
Views: 2509

Re: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?

If we made a list of really helpful exercises, the C-T-C in SF on the centerline would be on my list. I have mentioned a enough times to be boring, that after reading De La Gueiriniere i realized that the SF or SI should be the beginning and end of everything. struggling with a transition, do it in...
by Tsavo
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:28 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?
Replies: 133
Views: 2509

Re: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?

If we made a list of really helpful exercises, the C-T-C in SF on the centerline would be on my list.
by Tsavo
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:23 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?
Replies: 133
Views: 2509

Re: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?

PF what a lovely photo! She's so pretty. Mares are nice. I want a mare. That's my vortex. :-) Flight that was actually very good compared to the first attempts by that fourth level pair. I searched for the video but couldn't find it. I have posted it in the past on other fora but I just can't find i...
by Tsavo
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Downward Transitions
Replies: 21
Views: 382

Re: Downward Transitions

I have seen my GP trainer do canter-halt on a very large GP WB and it didn't look taxing. It looked easy for the horse. It made me think most of the effort involved in getting canter-halt is just building enough strength for the horse to accomplish it. Of course I don't know that. I have occasionall...
by Tsavo
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:06 am
Forum: Breeding, Registries & Conformation
Topic: Is this person high? In re horse growth
Replies: 22
Views: 269

Re: Is this person high? In re horse growth

StraightForward wrote:Wait, I thought you weren't horse shopping. :o


I am not. That was window shopping. Also that was a gelding which is off the table.
by Tsavo
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:50 am
Forum: Breeding, Registries & Conformation
Topic: Is this person high? In re horse growth
Replies: 22
Views: 269

Re: Is this person high? In re horse growth

I guess you trusted them to not have the mare up on blocks or something. :-)
by Tsavo
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:15 am
Forum: Breeding, Registries & Conformation
Topic: Is this person high? In re horse growth
Replies: 22
Views: 269

Re: Is this person high? In re horse growth

Wow! I didn't know that was possible.
by Tsavo
Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:00 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?
Replies: 133
Views: 2509

Re: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?

I did more CC today. It was as good as last August before he started limping although I am not doing as much as then. I had to keep looking down to check we were actually CCing going right because it was so balanced and smooth. Going left was less good but presentable. I think it was the opposite on...
by Tsavo
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:54 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?
Replies: 133
Views: 2509

Re: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?

I am also working diligently on improving my hands. JJ gave me the guidance to imagine that I am landing a "fluttery wild bird" on a stick aka landing a fluttery mare on the bit. Somehow this image really works for me and our connection consistency is improving. This image helps me more t...
by Tsavo
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:40 pm
Forum: Breeding, Registries & Conformation
Topic: Is this person high? In re horse growth
Replies: 22
Views: 269

Is this person high? In re horse growth

4 yo Clyde/Han 15.3 HH

The claim is he will finish at 16.2 HH.

Is this person high? Do horses really grow that much past 4??

Thanks in advance,
by Tsavo
Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:41 am
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Scabby bleedy sores on the back of hind pasterns - winning the war
Replies: 31
Views: 441

Re: Scabby bleedy sores on the back of hind pasterns - winning the war

Thanks khall and MC. I have to say I was using desitin for the first while and it didn't seem to help at all or even hold status quo. So I stopped using it and went with tinactin. That didn't seem to help so I went to triple antibiotic which did move the needle somewhat though not jaw droppingly so....
by Tsavo
Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:21 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Downward Transitions
Replies: 21
Views: 382

Re: Downward Transitions

I am no expert on this. My horse does tend to slide his hinds forward in downwards which is not identical to sitting correctly. This tendency is strong and a vet once surmised when he was injured in the pasture that he had sat down. I was not riding downwards correctly for a long time. I started hav...

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