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by Tsavo
Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

By the way anyone here could have written those blurbs if they know how to search the literature. You just search and then count the papers. MC you can check his work yourself. Anyone can. There is no faith involved in any of this.
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:02 am
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

Ramey is a very good place to start because of his publication record. I seriously doubt there are many other practicing vets with quite that large a pub list. There are research scientists in a similar place in their career with less pubs. I really need to emphasize it is unusual for a vet and show...
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:00 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: An interesting out come
Replies: 9
Views: 116

Re: An interesting out come

I agree if you do the type of groundwork (and lunging) that uses the same principles of carriage and contact as riding then it will transfer as it does with my horse. I also agree that other types of groundwork which seem aimed at just obedience do not. But it can jump the rails as it did with that ...
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:18 am
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

I'll just say there is a reason people get back surgery and that reason often is that the injections don't work. One study came out that it is the lidocaine alone that is working within a steroid injection in people.
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:16 am
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

I am talking about joint injections (not pentosan, adequan, legend im/iv). The evidence is that it helps tremendously. I can't believe you don't know that. I've owned horses for over 40 years. I've injected many of them with obvious positive outcomes. Ask any good sport horse vet (not some backyard...
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:14 am
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

There is, however, little experimental information regarding the effects of injection of corticosteroidal anti‑inflammatory agents into previously damaged or arthritic joints in non-experimental settings. Considerable evidence exists that a single injection of steroids into normal joints is not par...
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:50 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: An interesting out come
Replies: 9
Views: 116

Re: An interesting out come

The other thing is given her lameness history, if she stays sound in training that is definitely going to interest potential buyers and may bump the price up. If she can't stay sound in work then I would not give this horse away but either keep her or find a forever home as a companion horse or put ...
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:34 am
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

By the way, the evidence case for injections is thin as far as I know. Do you have more info?
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:33 am
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

musical comedy wrote:
Tsavo wrote:Also, if he was still lame on bute, that's no small thing.


Yes he was. But he was off bute a few days on Thursday and the limp was almost gone.
by Tsavo
Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:35 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: An interesting out come
Replies: 9
Views: 116

Re: An interesting out come

If the owner pulled the trigger on finding another home, should she consider putting the mare with a pro trainer for a few months to flip for the highest price possible and to the best home possible? That's what I would do. I probably would not have bought my horse had he been with the owner instead...
by Tsavo
Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:29 pm
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

It might all be coincidence. Who knows.

What do you think the chances are that a vet has a treatment for either lameness? Isn't the chance near zero? I think you have more faith in vet med than I do.
by Tsavo
Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:39 pm
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

Update from yesterday... the gimp on the left hind is there but much improved. And now he is also gimping on the left front presumably because he is out of work resting. It has been weeks since he gimped on the left front presumably because he was in work. It's like a science experiment with work an...
by Tsavo
Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:26 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

Which step of the baseline determination are you skeptical about and why?
by Tsavo
Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:10 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

I explained this when you asked about it in the thread on the Lameness Locator.
by Tsavo
Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:57 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?
Replies: 281
Views: 5737

Re: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?

Flight and Dresseur, I am sorry to hear about the soul sucking. Can I just ask what field you guys are in that is sucking your soul?

I am in science and am lucky that my job is more like a hobby. Both my daughters are going into science partly for this reason.
by Tsavo
Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:43 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: " competed through to the FEI levels"?
Replies: 24
Views: 432

Re: " competed through to the FEI levels"?

It is possible he thought he might get sued if she got hurt on his watch. Who knows. People sue over lots of things.
by Tsavo
Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:54 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

If they would sell me a Lameness Locator (TM) we could settle this. But they won't. Have them send me one too, will you? And I'd also like an xray machine, and will share it with all the other people I know who would like one, too. The lameness locator is completely different from an x-ray machine....
by Tsavo
Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:14 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

No but it can sample motion faster than the human eye and can discern multiple lamenesses with accuracy.
by Tsavo
Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:00 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

I have *joked* about my horse being quadrilaterally lame. The reason it is a joke is the chances of having exactly equal pain in all four legs are so small as to make the suggestion comical. Then add the claim that the horse stays quadrilaterally lame week after week after week. Do you see the prob...
by Tsavo
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:56 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

kande50 wrote:
Tsavo wrote:If a horse shows no sign of pain, how do you ever know if that horse is in pain?


We can't know even if he limps, because it could be a mechanical lameness that isn't painful.


Schrödinger's lameness is both there and not there in response to Schrödinger's pain which is both there and not there.
by Tsavo
Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

Actually I have seen it often when a horse is lame on one front leg. Block that leg and the horse goes lame on the other front leg. Blocks are a good tool for diagnosing lameness and showing up ones you did not know about! Kande is discussing a horse who doesn't limp. Tsavo you keep saying work res...
by Tsavo
Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:02 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

If a horse shows no sign of pain, how do you ever know if that horse is in pain?
by Tsavo
Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:52 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

Or he could be more equally lame in all 4 now so there's no limping? I have *joked* about my horse being quadrilaterally lame. The reason it is a joke is the chances of having exactly equal pain in all four legs are so small as to make the suggestion comical. Then add the claim that the horse stays...
by Tsavo
Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:36 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

I can only report what I do and what happened. Taking him out of work a year ago did not resolve the limping. Turnout and rehabbing and getting him back to five days a week W/T/C did. Or it was a total coincidence.
by Tsavo
Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:01 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

What I was asking was are you doing anything for this lameness? Are you continuing to ride him? Any diagnostics done to determine what is going on? Any treatment? I am buting him and resting him. I don't consider him rideable in this state. This limp is not like the front left limp which was minor....
by Tsavo
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:03 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

There is almost no mud in my horse's pasture. The mud is too small an area to matter.
by Tsavo
Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:41 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

That makes sense now that I read it, demi. We have drenching dew and I ride in the morning on it. Without shoes he does sometimes slip and that may have caused the left hind issue. It came on so suddenly that I first thought it was an injury but I think it is more likely a hock arthritis flare. I do...
by Tsavo
Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:28 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

Chisamba wrote:And I'm not even taking Tsavos side I don't know enough about the case.


Even I don't know enough about my horse's case. That's the problem. All I can do is report what I did and what happened. No knowledge is being advanced with my horse's case. :-)
by Tsavo
Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:20 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

The proof is in the pudding... does he limp? Is he stiff? I have a lot of trouble with the timeline sometimes, but didn't you just post something about him now being lame on his left hind, too? Yes but that is probably unrelated to the ringbone issue. It happened 2 months ago and went away by itsel...
by Tsavo
Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:17 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

khall what are you suggesting as the relation between ringbone on a front and hind issues? I think a horse can have two or more unrelated issues. I think his hock is flaring as would not be surprising in a 21 year old horse and that is conducing to moving the stifle differently. It flared about 2 mo...
by Tsavo
Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:01 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?
Replies: 281
Views: 5737

Re: Are we ready for the July August goals thread?

I think that might be one aberrant step that wasn't repeated. Are you saying he always traveled like that no matter how you changed his balance?
by Tsavo
Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:44 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

PT for osteoarthritis in human (replaced the link)

https://www.arthritis.org/living-with-a ... ercise.php

Physical activity is the best non-drug treatment for improving pain and function.
by Tsavo
Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:43 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

The proof is in the pudding... does he limp? Is he stiff? It is beyond question that this condition flares and remits or else my horse wouldn't have a single day after he started limping that he doesn't limp. In fact it is unusual for him to limp now. I don't know how bony changes conduce to flaring...
by Tsavo
Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

kande have you ever been to PT? I have. You go from a state of pain to a state of no pain. It is not painless on the way though. The equivalent to that in the horse world is correct work. If a horse has a condition that, like in humans is amenable to PT, then you are obliged to do that to take away ...
by Tsavo
Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:50 pm
Forum: The Observation Lounge
Topic: My announcement -- another redhead!
Replies: 20
Views: 229

Re: My announcement -- another redhead!

Wow what a beauty! And I love the name! Congratulations!
by Tsavo
Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:51 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

Thanks for typing that Ryeissa. It's an interesting perspective. Navicula used to scare me too but I ride a horse now who has been nerved and he is a game, forward guy. He is relatively easy to sit so I do a fair bit of sit trot which is fun. Another horse in my barn was just diagnosed with navicula...
by Tsavo
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:27 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Re: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

Thanks so much for typing that out, texsuze. Yours is a very tough case of not really getting a diagnosis that was definitive. That must have been maddening. I definitely picked up on your point of roller coaster lame - no lame - lame and how the emotions go up and down with that. I went so low when...
by Tsavo
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:13 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?
Replies: 57
Views: 500

Musical Comedy asks what's it going to take to retire my horse?

This is a very interesting and important question. I would cast it in terms of what are good reasons and bad reasons for retiring a horse. In discussing this I am going to limit it to physical/mental issue of the horse and not get into life situations with people. As my vet told me, ringbone (arthri...
by Tsavo
Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:58 pm
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

While the left hind has the only foot that is close to normal, I agree the left hind leg probably takes a beating with a club on the right front. The issue is at least stifle and probably also hock during this episode. During the last episode it appeared to be hock as he was not falling out or locki...
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:36 pm
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

My horse is lame now on the left hind. He was sound for weeks before that. I can't ride him now. I could ride him then. I will retire him if he can't come sound. If this left hind issue doesn't resolve I will have to retire him. He has had a flare of lameness on this leg in the past I I asked about ...
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:12 pm
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

Well but my vet's advice was to NOT retire him. I did anyway and that appeared to be the wrong thing to do. Before the left hind incident recently, he was moving as he was a year ago. By that I mean comfortably. He was not that comfortable at the beginning of the rehab because he stiffened up during...
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:09 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Notes from Charles de Kunffy (1)
Replies: 65
Views: 595

Re: Notes from Charles de Kunffy (1)

I agree asymmetries play into it. I use my asymmetries to correct them. I know I am tighter on the left hip so I know if I don't go to a certain point of pull that I am not rotated enough in SI. I find that pull and my horse slips into SI.
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:07 pm
Forum: Veterinary, Nutrition, Grooming & Farrier Questions
Topic: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot
Replies: 28
Views: 217

Re: Rain, lost shoes, and barefoot

Nope nope nope. I had one almost normal ride after the shoes on the front were pulled and since then his left hind is toast. He could not canter straight. I lunged him today and he both fell out and locked the stifle. I am sure the hock is flaring also. His has a large limp on the left hind. Is this...
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:58 pm
Forum: The Observation Lounge
Topic: All I want for my birthday is....
Replies: 24
Views: 306

Re: All I want for my birthday is....

In re itchy welts, as I mentioned I got those after walking the property looking for a lost shoe. By happenstance I had a physical soon after and they told me they were probably chigger bites. I have never seen them before. The amount of rain this summer is unusual in my opinion. And the level of sc...
by Tsavo
Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:37 am
Forum: The Observation Lounge
Topic: All I want for my birthday is....
Replies: 24
Views: 306

Re: All I want for my birthday is....

South of the Mason-Dixon, it is a choice between riding at cooler temps (70s or 80s) and 1,000 percent humidity or riding in 90s at lower humidity. It's a toss up but I choose to ride in the early morning trying to avoid that seemingly worst combination of humidity and heat in the late morning.
by Tsavo
Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:48 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Notes from Charles de Kunffy (1)
Replies: 65
Views: 595

Re: Notes from Charles de Kunffy (1)

I actually think much of this hinges on where the rider is sitting w.r.t. the bend as in where the saddle is sitting on the horse.
by Tsavo
Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:46 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Notes from Charles de Kunffy (1)
Replies: 65
Views: 595

Re: Notes from Charles de Kunffy (1)

Janet Foy The rider’s shoulders and hips should be turned inside slightly to be parallel to the horse’s shoulders so the outside hip and shoulder move forward as if you were traveling on a diagonal line away from the wall. https://dressagetoday.com/instruction/janet-foy-how-to-ride-a-shoulder-in Ok...
by Tsavo
Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:45 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Notes from Charles de Kunffy (1)
Replies: 65
Views: 595

Re: Notes from Charles de Kunffy (1)

Yes, rotation of the rider to stay relative to the track and spine of the horse. But not separating the shoulders and hips of the riders. IMG_5264.jpeg I'm saying that I do as in the top scribbles... where the hip and shoulder seen from the above are the same - but they stay perpendicular to the ho...
by Tsavo
Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:11 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Notes from Charles de Kunffy (1)
Replies: 65
Views: 595

Re: Notes from Charles de Kunffy (1)

Same book, p. 163. "Every lateral bend of the horse requires the rotation of the rider!. This rotation in the rider's upper body has to match exactly the lateral bend of the horse." My sense in riding SI and 10 m voltes is there is very notiable rotation required. As I mentioned my horse w...
by Tsavo
Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:54 pm
Forum: Dressage Training
Topic: Notes from Charles de Kunffy (1)
Replies: 65
Views: 595

Re: Notes from Charles de Kunffy (1)

There is a cartoon of a rider in SI on p. 167 of Balance in Movement. I don't have a protractor handy but the relative rotation depicted is about 20 degrees if not more. Are you considering that "slight" khall? On p. 169, she talks about SI to counter SI requiring good mobility in the pelv...

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