Zeus is being started

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Zeus is being started

Postby Baroque » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:10 am

I'm delighted to report that the young chap is now being ridden and is starting to become a proper horse.

I dropped him off at the breakers last Monday and by Wednesday night he had already ridden him a couple of times and said he was wonderful!

I had done most of the preparation anyway, he's been backed and had lots of inhand and lungeing work over the Xmas break prior to going off to the breaker for more working type preparation and schooling [that his old mum is too decrepit to participate in]. I worked him inhand over the Working Equitation obstacles most days as well, so he had lots of things to think about, his favourite is still the bridge and the random poles and all the cones.

He will learn all about stock work while he's there and the breaker is very keen to have the young horses he trains learning about normal things they will encounter on the farm every day like opening and shutting gates, garrocha, obstacles, ropes, and all the scary flappy stuff with flags and tarpaulins that we also do at home so he should end up with a very solid foundation as a working horse, which will be super for his Working Equitation and display life ahead of him. 8-)

I had him collected and frozen back in October so have enough frozen semen stored to start a decent sized horse herd! :lol: The stallion handler at the facility said he had a very very high libido.... tell me something I don't know! :lol: His progressional motility was very high [92%] and even after freezing it was still up in the high 80's. 8-)

He was gelded in November as I really do not need a stallion, especially one with a super high libido - and it makes management of the property with all those mares rather difficult as all our horses live out at grass like most other NZ horse breeders and properties. With a number of excellent PRE stallions arriving here in the past 3 months it meant his future use for stud services would be very limited and so I decided it was much fairer on him [and me] to have him gelded and enjoy him as a wonderful riding partner in the future. 8-) He has already started becoming such a nice horse to handle that I'm delighted that I made that decision. Some photos taken a few days before he went off to "school". Please excuse the weeds in the background and the neighbours mess.

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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Chisamba » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:43 am

Beautiful. Good idea to collect and geld I think.

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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Anne » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:01 am

Great update on Zeus! He looks gorgeous, and you must be so excited to watch his riding progress and looking forward to having him home. How neat that there are some new PRE stallions here - presume one of them is Paseo II (just found a website with some pics of him, looks lovely), and will be interesting to see his progeny!! Also watching the Lusitano breeding with interest..... Please keep us posted on Zeus' progress.

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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Baroque » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:05 pm

My Rosa is in foal to Paseo 8-)

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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Hayburner » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:48 am

He's Stunning!
How tall is he?
Lovely mane and tail and his build looks super!

Love my PRE mare!

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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Baroque » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:54 pm

Thanks! Their manes and tails grow like weeds. :lol: I chopped about 400mm off his sister Rosa's mane when I hogged it and it all grew back again in under a year.

Zeus was about 3cm over the minimum height for stallions when measured by the studbook official last March, he has grown quite a bit since and I think he will end up over 16hh. They all seem to keep growing until they are 9yo in my experience.

He scored very highly on their evaluation in all sections [as did his older sister Rosa] so I was delighted when they both passed with flying colours as we had waited over 4 years for a visit from ANCCE so we could start breeding from her. She is now in foal to the lovely Calificado stallion Paseo II so I'm hoping we will get either a dark bay or black foal later this year. 8-)

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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Baroque » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:01 pm

Update from breaker is that he is being ridden over tarps in walk and trot and getting used to flags and lots of other objects - we had already done a lot of this inhand so getting it nice and calmly under saddle is great for his future work.

He will be doing Working Equitation and some of our jousting displays as well as stock work so I need him to be very relaxed around scary objects as that's what we do here.

He is now doing walk and trot over uneven poles under saddle very nicely, and he is nice and soft and picking up change of bend from seat and leg really well.

The attention span around other horses is still that of a gnat however this will improve as his testosterone levels drop more towards those of a normal gelding and there's always chasteberry... :lol: apparently this is super for hormone issues in geldings as well as mares.

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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Baroque » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:00 am

Now doing stock work and is being ridden over poles and tarps and dragging stuff :lol:

I had my first ride on him on Monday and he is super light, very responsive to leg and seat and is an absolute joy to work with! 8-)

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Postby Kyra's Mom » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:43 am

Gorgeous...I am glad he is taking to being a riding horse so easily.

ENJOY :!:

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Postby StraightForward » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:20 pm

Sounds like he has a great brain inside that pretty head! :)
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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Baroque » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:44 am

He's doing extra well, such a clever chap! 8-)

Playing with garrocha and rings..
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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Quelah » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:57 am

Your cowboy is very Great Basin of California with his gear :)

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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Baroque » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:18 pm

Quelah wrote:Your cowboy is very Great Basin of California with his gear :)


He originally comes from Colorado and has been training horses here in NZ for a few years now.

I haven't got around to asking him what the 2nd girth strap on a Western saddle is for, can anyone enlighten me on the reason for it?

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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Quelah » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:46 pm

LOL! It's called a flank cinch. The purpose is that if you are actually being a REAL cowboy and upon occasion throwing a rope and catching a cow, when that 5-1,000 lbs animal hits the end of the rope, it can actually pull the back of the saddle UP, which is problematic for the rider and really not nice for the horse's back right behind the shoulder as you can imagine. Western saddles are MEANT to be used with a flank cinch, but rarely are. It stabilizes the whole saddle, which is quite long front to back. Flank cinches should be adjusted as your fellow's is, in contact with the belly. Not snug like the front girth, but you shouldn't be seeing much daylight between the leather and the horse, as it obviously wouldn't do any good otherwise. Many people who do use them have them really loose, like 4-6" of daylight, which is really dangerous. You can imagine the wreck if the horse got his hind foot caught up inside the flank cinch.

My flank cinch funny (to me anyway). When I ride western, I ride in a roping saddle with breast collar and flank cinch. I don't rope, but the saddle without those things, to me, is like a man wearing a suit jacket with board shorts and tennis shoes. It just ain't right. So I've taken a couple of cowboy dressage lessons on Milagro (tacked up as described). The instructor very nicely told me that my tack was correct for cowboy dressage (this I knew) but that no one really uses breast collars and flank cinches. I was like, well, this horse *needs* a breast collar, and since this is a roping saddle, it *needs* a flank cinch. I always snicker to myself when I see someone carrying a rope on a saddle without a flank cinch. Really? Go ahead and tie one off, but keep your weight back when you do and see if you can keep the back of the saddle down. Around here we call that kind of thing "Big hat, no cattle."

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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Chisamba » Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:34 pm

I like how he looks both relaxed and interested in what is going on

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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Baroque » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:39 pm

More stock work photos from the breaker... 8-)

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Re: Zeus is being started

Postby Baroque » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:44 pm

And this one which I love..

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He loves working cattle and has a huge interest in everything going on.

I rode him again yesterday and he is such a super ride, I am so pleased I sent him here for training because he is nice and light and responsive to ride, and his manners are impeccable [most of the time] - he is still coming down off a testosterone high after serving and then being gelded so the distractions are getting less and he is much more focused on me now.

I loaded him on the truck and brought him home and he is delighted to be back home again! :lol:


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