Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

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Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby Chancellor » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:51 pm

I'm really curious about why anyone would want to vote for Hillary. Would I like to see a woman president? Sure. But I wouldn't vote for her just because she is a woman. What are her good characteristics that might make you vote for her?

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby M&M » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:21 pm

To me her best characteristics are that she's a Democrat, Bill, and her experience as Secretary of State.

In the primary, I am going to vote for Bernie. I will have no problem voting for Hillary if she is the nominee. She's got some shortcomings, for sure. But I think she'll get things done, although I for sure think she'll get things done in the same old way as we've been doing for too long. She's polarizing, but there is so much animosity between the parties, that anybody from the "same old, same old" camp, either side, will have a hard time getting things done. That's where Bill behind her becomes a strength, again, in my opinion.

He did get things done - some of them mistakes, but still. And one thing for which he is vilified - don't ask, don't tell - would we have gotten anywhere without that as a start? To me, that is classic Bill - he promised more/better than don't ask, don't tell, but what he did got the ball rolling.

In my opinion, a Democrat voting for Hillary is voting for business as usual. Voting for Bernie is voting for real change. I think that's why Trump has gotten as far as he has, because he's definitely not "business as usual, same old, same old." Although I really hope he doesn't end up leading our country.

That's my $.02. Next?
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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby KathyK » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:52 pm

What M&M said.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby Chancellor » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:43 pm

M&M I agree with you about how Trump has gotten as far as he has.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby Tuffytown » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:03 pm

It's way too early to tell.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby boots-aregard » Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:05 pm

She's not a Republican. Right now, I couldn't in good conscience vote Republican. I will/would vote Bernie in the primary, but I'm not a registered Democrat (I forget if California has an open primary for Democrats), but I'll be voting for whichever Democrat runs for president.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby carpevita » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:30 pm

M&M said it beautifully.
Bernie Sanders will be the first candidate I ever vote for with confidence he will do his absolute best for us.

But if it turns out to be HRC I will vote for her because she has the experience and guts needed for the job. She may be controversial as hell, but she isn't an idjit either like so many other current candidates are.
I think other world leaders respect her intellect and experience and toughness, which I cannot imagine happening with mr bush or mr trump or dr carson especially.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby heddylamar » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:33 pm

Ditto Boots. I will vote for HRC if I've don't have the opportunity to vote for Bernie.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby Spiritpaws » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:35 am

My first choice is Bernie, but if Hillary is the nominee, I will vote for her mainly because there isn't one Republican currently running that I would vote for.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby Chancellor » Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:34 pm

Spiritpaws wrote:My first choice is Bernie, but if Hillary is the nominee, I will vote for her mainly because there isn't one Republican currently running that I would vote for.


Frankly, I am a Republican/Libertarian and I agree with you! I still won't vote for Hillary though :D

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby M&M » Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:49 pm

I wanted to ask you, Chancellor, if there were any Republicans that you could take seriously, but I was afraid of starting a shit storm.

What are we going to do? This election is nuts.
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Postby M&M » Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:50 pm

These guys make Mitt Romney look good to me, and believe me, I was not a fan. But if he had been President, I wouldn't have been embarrassed.
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Postby khall » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:02 pm

M&M LOL!! I agree with you BTW, but I will vote Democrate and not Republican. In the minority here in GA though.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby Chancellor » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:19 pm

M&M wrote:I wanted to ask you, Chancellor, if there were any Republicans that you could take seriously, but I was afraid of starting a shit storm.

What are we going to do? This election is nuts.


You shouldn't be afraid of starting a shit storm....

I MIGHT get behind Kasich because although he is not a political outsider, I wouldn't call him an insider either. I did like Carson for awhile until he started really going off but I am glad that he did because I don't want someone like that in office.

I really think we don't need another political insider (*cough cough* Hillary). I think we need someone who isn't about getting re-elected but for getting real change.

American politics needs BIG CHANGES. I cannot imagine that our forefathers EVER thought being a politician was a career. Too many people are being bought and sold (ON BOTH SIDES). I LIKE Bernie Sanders for that reason but I am really NOT sure he is presidential material. If he gets nominated or runs independently, I WILL take a close look at him though.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby musical comedy » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:38 pm

M&M wrote:I wanted to ask you, Chancellor, if there were any Republicans that you could take seriously, but I was afraid of starting a shit storm.
Not Chancellor, but there are several Republicans I take seriously. I'm not going to argue who and why with all the liberals though. If you spend time following the early campaign (which I do) you will see that each candidate has their following, and not all those followers are stupid. There are, however, lots of uneducated (and stupid) people that are going to vote, whether it be democrat or republican. I'm talking about people that pick up on just one or two issues and select their candidate based on that, rather than looking at all the issues, specifically issues that are vital to the security and economics of this country.

In case anyway cares though, I'll answer the topic of this thread. No, I am not planning to vote for Hillary. I actually do not want to see a woman as president or vice president. And no, I'm not going into why.

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Postby Chancellor » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:45 pm

musical comedy- I'm sorry to hear you don't want to discuss it. I know that it is very difficult to 'argue' when there are a ton of liberals on the board and a handful only of republicans. I hope eventually you will discuss politics here (because I need more right leaning posters to back me up :-)))

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby boots-aregard » Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:44 pm

If I had to vote Republican, I'd be in Kasich's camp. But he won't get the nomination, so that's moot.

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Postby WheresMyWhite » Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:58 pm

Chancellor, while I don't directly feel as MC does about the candidates, I'm with her completely on the "discussion" side of things. Yes, many more liberals than conservatives and the liberals often make it hard to "discuss". (Although I suspect there are a few who are thinking the same of me right about now :) ).

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Postby Chancellor » Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:13 pm

I hear you WMW! I gave up entirely on the Political Forum on UDBB because of a few posters who were just hammering on me. One in particular who is not here who used to tell me I couldn't possibly BE a republican if I subscribe to ALL their ideals.

But I think it is important to listen to BOTH sides here to learn more.... There is enough separation in the powers that be now...what we need is to get people (regular people) listening to each other and maybe then we can heal the rift in this country.

Sorry for the Mr Rogers speech.

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Postby MaggieMae » Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:40 pm

I agree with you Chancellor, it is important to listen to BOTH sides. But both sides have to be listening and so far the trend on this forum is leaning towards how it was on the old UDBB with the minority (right leaning) getting hammered and silenced. I do appreciate your efforts to try and gain a meaningful discussion though!

I won't vote for Hillary. She has shown her true colors as a liar and I honestly don't think she is capable of effective leadership. She seems to not be able to handle everything not going her way. Not to mention that many of her ideas and beliefs do not mesh with mine. Sanders is a self proclaimed socialist. While I admire his honesty, no thanks to the socialist part.

I think there are several very good republican candidates. Unfortunately the media has made a circus out of Trump and now Carson, and there has been little opportunity to hear what the other candidates are all about. I think Cruz is great. I like Carly and Rubio. I think Jindal might be a good candidate but who would know what his ideas are since the camera is always focused on Trump. And speaking of.... I don't trust Trump. He talks great and what he has to say is actually what this country needs! But I am not sure that he is sincere. Not long ago his view were totally opposite of what they are now. Makes me wonder. And I also really like Carson. He has a lot of ideas that are what this country needs. But I am not sure he is ready for the job. It is great that he is NOT a politician, but at the same time, I think some political experience is needed.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby musical comedy » Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:54 pm

WheresMyWhite wrote:Chancellor, while I don't directly feel as MC does about the candidates, I'm with her completely on the "discussion" side of things. Yes, many more liberals than conservatives and the liberals often make it hard to "discuss". (Although I suspect there are a few who are thinking the same of me right about now :) ).
It's not just politics, but any subject on the web. Getting reasonable discussion is hard to come by. For the most part, people on the web don't want to discuss. They want to put their opinion out there, trash someone else's opinion, or prove just how much they know. It's a turn off. How often do you hear someone say "gee, I didn't know that"? Or, "I was wrong".

I've changed my choice for POTUS a few times since the beginning. As I hear more about their platform and see what they have done or haven't done, I change lanes. Some, I'm pretty sure will never be my favorite.

Even though I don't like Hilary, Sanders, or Obama, I won't call them 'clowns', incompetents, or other derogatory names like people are doing to the republicans.

MaggieMae wrote:I agree with you Chancellor, it is important to listen to BOTH sides. But both sides have to be listening and so far the trend on this forum is leaning towards how it was on the old UDBB with the minority (right leaning) getting hammered and silenced. I do appreciate your efforts to try and gain a meaningful discussion though!

I won't vote for Hillary. She has shown her true colors as a liar and I honestly don't think she is capable of effective leadership. She seems to not be able to handle everything not going her way. Not to mention that many of her ideas and beliefs do not mesh with mine. Sanders is a self proclaimed socialist. While I admire his honesty, no thanks to the socialist part.

I think there are several very good republican candidates. Unfortunately the media has made a circus out of Trump and now Carson, and there has been little opportunity to hear what the other candidates are all about. I think Cruz is great. I like Carly and Rubio. I think Jindal might be a good candidate but who would know what his ideas are since the camera is always focused on Trump. And speaking of.... I don't trust Trump. He talks great and what he has to say is actually what this country needs! But I am not sure that he is sincere. Not long ago his view were totally opposite of what they are now. Makes me wonder. And I also really like Carson. He has a lot of ideas that are what this country needs. But I am not sure he is ready for the job. It is great that he is NOT a politician, but at the same time, I think some political experience is needed.

My bolding, which I agree with. Other than that, here's a case where two Republican's think differently as those you like are not the ones I like.
Again though, for me it is about which candidate I feel will do the most for homeland security. That is first and foremost to me. So...the immigration issue plays into that. Hilary, or anyone else, I expect are going to have faults or have done something wrong or that I don't like. If a person can do the job, I can overlook things.

The experience thing is iffy. Having spent 30 years in management corporate america, I have seen managers with no experience in a certain thing, really rise to the occasion and do well. On the other hand, I suppose I lean towards a candidate that does have the political background.

I don't have the answer, but I'd like to see a change in how they do the primaries. By the time my state (NJ) holds them, the choice will likely be obvious. So, I don't even get a say in who will be the Republican candidate.

Who am I for at present? Chris Christy.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby Chancellor » Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:16 pm

musical comedy wrote: It's not just politics, but any subject on the web. Getting reasonable discussion is hard to come by. For the most part, people on the web don't want to discuss. They want to put their opinion out there, trash someone else's opinion, or prove just how much they know. It's a turn off. How often do you hear someone say "gee, I didn't know that"? Or, "I was wrong".


I did it on this very forum not too long ago on the Intellectual Property thread.
I miss the days on the UDBB when we would have great discussions. Dave Walker and I were on different political spectrums but we had great discussions. We often had to ignore other posters who tried to derail threads. I learned a lot more from him than I have from the posters who do just trash the other side.

We had a great discussion where I was talking about intelligent design vs Evolution. I am a scientist by training and don't really believe the stories in the Bible about Adam and Eve. But we discussed the whole topic while also ignoring those people who just couldn't understand debating for the sake of deabting. Come to think of it, the same person who told me I couldn't be a Republican because I didn't subscribe to all their ideas ALSO told me I couldn't be a scientist and still argue for Intelligent Design. It's a debate. I can take EITHER side. And it is very interesting to hear the other side. It's how we learn. Having respect for the other side makes debates more interesting even IF you don't believe in their side.

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Postby Avola » Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:25 pm

KathyK wrote:What M&M said.


Yes. Exactly what she said

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby piedmontfields » Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:42 pm

If I had to vote Republican, I'd vote for Richard Nixon...

Oh, right, not an option!

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby Saddlebum » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:18 am

I'm for Bernie but feel exactly the same as M&M.

Bernie has been an economic advisor to 2 maybe 3 presidential administrations, then ran for Senate and won. Vermont really likes him and I feel he has the wherewithal to deal with Foreign policy and the rest of the politics as usual.

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Postby WheresMyWhite » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:28 am

M&M wrote:I wanted to ask you, Chancellor, if there were any Republicans that you could take seriously, but I was afraid of starting a shit storm.


I don't know how Chancellor feels about any of the Republican candidates but with a lead-in about taking any of them seriously, *I* wouldn't attempt a discussion as I already know how you feel. And it certainly appears in the general population that many take some/all of the Republicans seriously. Or may be they are all just knuckleheaded asses???

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Postby musical comedy » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:56 am

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M&M wrote:I wanted to ask you, Chancellor, if there were any Republicans that you could take seriously, but I was afraid of starting a shit storm.


I don't know how Chancellor feels about any of the Republican candidates but with a lead-in about taking any of them seriously, *I* wouldn't attempt a discussion as I already know how you feel. And it certainly appears in the general population that many take some/all of the Republicans seriously. Or may be they are all just knuckleheaded asses???
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My bolding. Probably I've already written this (forgetful), but I feel this way about horse discussions as well. If you've been on the discussion forums as long as I have, and IF you pay attention to who writes what (which I do), then you know their position on things. People are not going to change their position on most things. Some people like to argue back and forth; it's fun for them. Nothing wrong with that, but it's just not for me.

At this moment, after losing sleep last night upset about Paris, I more than ever want a candidate that is going to get ISIS. I don't care what party they are. We absolutely must close our borders and keep this country safe. Take care of our own first.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby KathyK » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:07 pm

WheresMyWhite wrote:
M&M wrote:I wanted to ask you, Chancellor, if there were any Republicans that you could take seriously, but I was afraid of starting a shit storm.


I don't know how Chancellor feels about any of the Republican candidates but with a lead-in about taking any of them seriously, *I* wouldn't attempt a discussion as I already know how you feel.

It's not that different from Chancellor's lead-in.
I'm really curious about why anyone would want to vote for Hillary.

And yet, we're able to discuss. Why can't you?

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Postby Red Barn » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:22 pm

If Bernie gets the boot, I'll vote third party.

As far as I'm concerned, Hillary is a Republican in all but rhetoric.

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Postby WheresMyWhite » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:44 pm

Where is the head on the keyboard emoticon???

Asking someone if any Republicans could be taken seriously IMO isn't the same as asking why anyone would want to vote for a given candidate.

No implication that Hilary can't be taken seriously just curiosity...

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Postby KathyK » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:00 pm

Don't hurt your head.

I think the implication in the original post was clear: that it is not possible to understand why anyone would vote for Hillary.

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Postby musical comedy » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:37 pm

This is from Hilary's website. Bolding by me.

Defeating ISIS. ISIS and the foreign terrorist fighters it recruits pose a serious threat to America and our allies. We will confront and defeat them in a way that builds greater stability across the region, without miring our troops in another misguided ground war. Hillary will empower our partners to defeat terrorism and the ideologies that drive it, including through our ongoing partnership to build Iraqi military and governing capacity, our commitment to Afghanistan’s democracy and security, and by supporting efforts to restore stability to Libya and Yemen.

She is not in favor of sending ground troops to fight ISIS. Right there, would be a reason I wouldn't vote for her. We need boots on the ground over there. And as Lindsay Graham said "whatever it takes; as long as it takes".

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Postby M&M » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:48 pm

Folks, I'm the same person who started a thread here asking if any of the candidates are electable. Not any of the Republican candidates, any of the candidates.

My question to Chancellor was actually serious*. We have Ben Carson and Donald Trump in the forefront. Ben Carson is merely extreme, Donald Trump is, in my opinion, a joke. And people who I would have expected to be taken seriously trailing the pack, like Jeb Bush and Chris Christie. The Republican field is so ridiculously large this time, that I have not had the time or energy to research all of them. Because I know Chancellor, I thought if there was one or two she took seriously, they would be ones I would look into to see what they are offering.

I would be watching the debates, but we don't have television at all, so I don't get to watch either party's debates.

*But I won't deny that there was an opinion embedded in my question.
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Postby stella » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:07 pm

I love Bernie and I like Hillary. I think Bernie will get the nomination and win the election.

I'll certainly vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination. She brings relationships with world leaders, she's a political insider, having been first lady to Bill Clinton, I agree with her positions mostly, and she has shown flexibility to concur with evolving social opinions. My only real issue with her is her relationship with Wall Street.

But I do think she'd be a good leader.

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Postby cb06 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:36 pm

I'm voting for Hillary. Though I do really like Bernie and would be fine with him. I just think HRC has a bit more practical experience politically, and is experienced and tough on the world stage.
...and I will add that of all the Republicans, Kasich would be my choice also....he just has no chance, and I think that is sad. We need statesmen and stateswomen on both sides.

Finally, as much as I would like to believe that the President alone could affect 'Big Change'...the truth is all politics...and the 'change' it can bring...is LOCAL. If we do not actively vote for change at the local, state and Congressional level, nothing will change. We need politicians who can compromise, make sound policy, and GOVERN.

Remember that your vote counts just as much as Koch or Buffet, etc. That is the beauty of democracy. One person, one vote....you have power...VOTE...in EVERY election, not just the presidential election...

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby CanadianTrotter » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:13 pm

KathyK wrote:Don't hurt your head.

I think the implication in the original post was clear: that it is not possible to understand why anyone would vote for Hillary.



Very clear.... the "Mr.Rogers" speech is hypocrytical.

The first sentence in the original post is not a question leading to debate. It's a question asking people to justify their opinions and choices with a little tinge of insult and baiting. When we had our elections here in Canada I would ask people "Why are you voting for Trudeau?" If I asked, "Why would anyone want to vote for Trudeau?"... it would have put them on the defensive right away.

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Postby Chancellor » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:50 pm

Did you guys EVER consider the fact that while I don't understand why someone would vote for Hillary, MAYBE I am CURIOUS why someone ELSE would? I mean come on....
I'm starting to see what musical comedy is saying...

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Postby heddylamar » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:06 pm

I didn't see, or read, an ulterior motive into the OP. It was a straight forward question.

Had there clearly been ulterior motives, I'd still have answered the same way.

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Postby Chancellor » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:20 pm

Thank you heddylamar

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Postby M&M » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:29 pm

CanadianTrotter wrote:
KathyK wrote:Don't hurt your head.

I think the implication in the original post was clear: that it is not possible to understand why anyone would vote for Hillary.



Very clear.... the "Mr.Rogers" speech is hypocrytical.

The first sentence in the original post is not a question leading to debate. It's a question asking people to justify their opinions and choices with a little tinge of insult and baiting. When we had our elections here in Canada I would ask people "Why are you voting for Trudeau?" If I asked, "Why would anyone want to vote for Trudeau?"... it would have put them on the defensive right away.


If I had picked up on any hint of this, I wouldn't have participated in this thread. I assumed I would be a complete non-participant on this forum, because I hated the tone of the political forum on UDBB.
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Postby boots-aregard » Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:21 pm

Chancellor wrote:Did you guys EVER consider the fact that while I don't understand why someone would vote for Hillary, MAYBE I am CURIOUS why someone ELSE would? I mean come on....
I'm starting to see what musical comedy is saying...


You should be seeing the exact opposite of what musical comedy is saying.

Point is, your question had an inference. It did. Maybe purposeful, maybe accidental.
Second point is, people went ahead and discussed it anyway. We didn't call CNBC and complain. ;)

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby Tuffytown » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:30 pm

Yeah, I read a bit of insult into it too but went ahead and spoke my piece without complaint.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby CanadianTrotter » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:16 am

Tuffytown wrote:Yeah, I read a bit of insult into it too but went ahead and spoke my piece without complaint.


I could care a less if there was an insult or not and I most definitely wasn't complaining. I was just agreeing with what another poster said by pointing out the obvious.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby KathyK » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:38 pm

Why would anyone want to own a non-warmblood?
Why would anyone want to have children?
Why would anyone want to have a pit bull?

Are we seeing it now?

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby Chancellor » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:45 pm

KathyK, you are pushing it.
I have stated that I did not intend for there to be an insult. Kindly take me at my word that no insult was intended. And that is all I want to hear on the subject of whether an insult was implied or not.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby KathyK » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:47 pm

Your board, your call.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby CanadianTrotter » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:08 pm

KathyK wrote:Your board, your call.



If this forum board is going to have the "It's my sandbox" attitude... I doubt I'll be sticking around much longer.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby Chancellor » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:32 pm

I do not have that attitude. What I DO take exception to is people saying that my intentions were different than what they were. I understand that you have taken some of what I said incorrectly. I don't have an issue with that. But if I say "NO that is not what I intended" , Please don't argue with me or anyone else.

CT-you have had a fairly sizeable chip on your shoulder since you joined. If you don't want to stay, no one is making you. This is a free to join bulletin board. And you are just as free to leave.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby boots-aregard » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:49 pm

Chancellor wrote:What I DO take exception to is people saying that my intentions were different than what they were. I understand that you have taken some of what I said incorrectly. I don't have an issue with that. But if I say "NO that is not what I intended" , Please don't argue with me or anyone else.


For the sake of discussion, Kathy K didn't argue your motives were different than you say. She merely helped illustrate (clearly) a reason why other persons could read some slant in your original post. It's word choice. Communication is a two-part effort. As others don't get to tell you what you meant to say, you don't get to tell others they were "incorrect" in what they read.

All a tempest in a thimble, but I bring it up since people are getting miffy.

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Re: Are you going to vote for Hillary? Why or why not?

Postby CanadianTrotter » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:51 pm

Your response says it all... the truth and writing is on the wall.

KathyK, please remove me from the xmas card exchange, I don't feel right being involved with something nice like that on a board like this.

Chancellor, have fun in you personal sanbox... please remove me or ban me, whatever pleases you the most, it matters naught to me.


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