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Pivo self video--anyone?

Postby Tanga » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:58 pm

I just saw this on COTH and was really excited so went to the website and looked at some videos. This device allows you to video yourself when you're riding and is only about $130! It seems perfect for us poorer people with no eyes. Anyone use it? I am trying to hold back an research a few das before I but it I'm so excited.

https://www.getpivo.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD3L4S8S7S8

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Postby blob » Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:46 am

a friend bought it and posted the videos on facebook. She said she was disappointed by its ability to track and it seemed to lose her horse frequently. She was not doing anything speedy. I know they are different settings, so maybe that was part of the problem. But several others chimed in and said they too had been disappointed. I think it's a GREAT idea and I think version 2.0 will likely be greatly improved. but it sounds like this version might be rather buggy.

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Postby heddylamar » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:18 am

Based on the info on their website, and in the forums, I don't think it will be useful ... unless you position it on a post in the middle of a circle, and turn to face it at all times. And even then, it sounds like there will be glitchy lag time.

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Postby exvet » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:10 am

I too was rather excited when I first started hearing about it. I don't have the most advanced Android and it seemed that a lot of the good reviews were coming from those with the more recent Iphones. I'm waiting it out a bit to see if the glitches are worked out. Also I got an advertisement yesterday for what sounds/looks like a competitor product. Not sure but I'm going to follow this thread, the one on COTH and do some more research before I make the plunge. I'm also due for an upgrade on my phone so that is also a consideration of mine.

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Postby Chancellor » Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:42 am

One of the women in the barn I am teaching at has it. I don't think it is the best at following the horse.
She does position it in the middle of the ring on a tripod. But it still loses track of the horse sometimes.
My student has ordered it as well so we will see.
Pixio looks like a better product. Of course, it is $850 but my guess is you get what you pay for.

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Postby Hayburner » Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:15 pm

I bought one a few months ago, I got the Silver version.

I haven't used it but have played with it a bit and it works!

I referred a friend to buy one and she loves it!

I bought one since it can be used indoors !

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Postby Hayburner » Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:18 pm

With Pixo you need a camera and to be outdoors.

They have made significant upgrades to the app and have a Facebook page with tons of videos and advise on how to set it up.
Majority of users seem to like it.

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Postby StraightForward » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:21 pm

Pixio works indoors, but there are beacons that you need to set up around the arena.

SoloShot does not work indoors because it operates off of GPS.

I found my little old camcorder and took it out to the barn. I'll use that for indoors (easier to aim than a phone) unless the Pivo starts looking like a solidly good option. One poster on CotH said it lost her dark horse in a dark indoor arena. With my chestnuts and the bare wood arena walls, I can see that being a problem with lack of contrast.
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Postby Tanga » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:27 am

Hayeburner, you need to try it! The Silver version is still only about $150. Ask your friend for more feedback!

Thanks, straightforward, looks like I have the minimum iphone needed, but that's all good for me. Thanks for the link. Very helpful.

This is starting to look great for me. Just having any video of myself to get feedback would be fine, and this seems like it would do the trick.

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Postby Hayburner » Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:19 pm

Tanga. I need a few days where it is high 80-90 degrees! The Indoor can get pretty hot if there is t a breeze, LOL

I also need someone to help me set it up while I get on and to use their tripod.

But, I am excited to use it.

As for dark horse, etc the horse image can be I,proved by using white polos and or a white saddle pad. Rider should also be in a bright shirt

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Postby goldhorse » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:56 am

I bit the bullet and ordered one. Maybe seeing how much I pull back and hang on my horse's face will get me to stop that. I hate looking at myself in the mirror or watching videos of myself but it's time to suck it up for my poor horse's sake.

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Postby Tanga » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:52 pm

goldhorse wrote:I bit the bullet and ordered one. Maybe seeing how much I pull back and hang on my horse's face will get me to stop that. I hate looking at myself in the mirror or watching videos of myself but it's time to suck it up for my poor horse's sake.


Oh goody. I can get more feedback.

I know what you mean. When I see myself, I'm like, "WHAT are you doing??" Recently I got someone to video at the show, which really helped me see some things I wasn't realizing that I can easily fix. I can do super tight, collected pirouettes on both horses, but when I do that, even though it's more correct, I get lower scores. When I do easier, bigger pirouettes, I get higher scores! And I figured out the more forward passage where she is more unsteady does not look good. It looks so much better when I keep it shorter, and it's easier!

I've gotten some video clips from people at the barn lately, too, and it really helps. It's so amazing what a little feedback can do!

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Postby Hayburner » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:47 am

Straightforward, Thanks for the link!

I was trying mine out and had some issues which she addressed.

I read thru it quickly so not sure if she mentioned phi e must be in airplane mode or not. That was one of the mistakes I made. You can use that or do not disturb depending on your phone.

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Postby Tanga » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:26 am

OMG! I got my Pivo yesterday and tried it today! You have to get it. It's AMAZING! I ordered the one with the extra holder, which is good because my phone is in a otter box, and am SO glad I got the tripod. It is SUPER high quality and goes very high and is sturdy. It was $209 with shipping. Super deal. It took less than a week.

I set it up outside the arena fence at Xish and it goes over the fence. Reading the facebook pony link helped me get started, and I did about 8 test shots riding the two horses, and it was pretty easy to do. There were other horses in the arena, and if they crossed in front of it, it switched to them, but came back to me if I got in front again. This is an example of how it follows and zooms. Cool! (This Is Quilla who was in a tizzy for some unknown reason [maybe because it's been hot and the air deadly from smoke, and it cooled down a lot and was breathable, I don't know] so she is looking very hyped, but I was able to see how nice she can piaffe/passage when she chills a bit.) https://youtu.be/qd90_vV7r5c

It has a little remote you can carry in your pocket to record and not that I did a few times, and this time I was starting it from the phone. And if you're all admiring my shirt, I decided to get rid of all of the old school t-shirts I had and make sleeveless shirt and was practicing tie dying and using paint to make new ones. :) The mask I keep around my neck riding (purple) in case I need one is one of the cut off sleeves.

I would so recommend anyone get it if you're like me and need to see yourself riding to fix things!

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Postby Flight » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:28 am

That's pretty good Tanga, how far from it can you go so it will keep following you?

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Postby Chisamba » Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:48 pm

looks like it worked very well for you

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Postby StraightForward » Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:09 pm

Glad it is working for you, Tanga! Is there anything unique about the tripod, or is it just a standard screw mount?
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Postby Tanga » Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:57 pm

Flight wrote:That's pretty good Tanga, how far from it can you go so it will keep following you?


That arena is pretty big and it seemed to follow me around pretty well as long as no one else got it's attention. I did notice in one of the videos I went behind the jumps and it stopped and followed the cars up on the road, so it's not perfect. It seems less about distance and more about what's moving.

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Postby Tanga » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:00 pm

Tanga wrote:
Flight wrote:That's pretty good Tanga, how far from it can you go so it will keep following you?


That arena is pretty big and it seemed to follow me around pretty well as long as no one else got it's attention. I did notice in one of the videos I went behind the jumps and it stopped and followed the cars up on the road, so it's not perfect. It seems less about distance and more about what's moving.


straightforward I don't know if the top of the tripod is standard or not. It has a little screw base that nicely mounts either of the phone grips. The top part has three clips that let it extend on the top, and the bottom has more clips which let it fold back on itself. So the top is about 5 feet, but it folds into a small maybe 18" package.

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Postby Sue B » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:48 pm

Fits on any standard tripod. I too got the extra holder to go with my heavy duty Otterbox. I think I need to park my trailer elsewhere, however, cuz it keeps locking on to it instead of horse. Both, btw, are brown.

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Postby Shirrine » Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:49 am

I love my pivo. I think you need the right phone for it to work well. Oh and fiddle til you swear then it works. :D

https://youtu.be/RN6vbgqzofM

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Postby demi » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:27 pm

So nice to see you Shirrine!, and Lewyn looks great.

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Postby Lipsmackerpony88 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:15 pm

My husband ordered this for me for a early Christmas present, which I guess might be more of an anniversary present. I haven't received it yet and I do need a new phone for it (but I've wanted one anyways. I HATE what we have now.)

Very excited to try it out. Everyone's videos look pretty good. Especially for the price point.

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Postby Tanga » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:32 pm

Lipsmackerpony88 wrote:My husband ordered this for me for a early Christmas present, which I guess might be more of an anniversary present. I haven't received it yet and I do need a new phone for it (but I've wanted one anyways. I HATE what we have now.)

Very excited to try it out. Everyone's videos look pretty good. Especially for the price point.


So glad you're getting it! It's such a good deal. I'm back to using mine now see the air is breathable, and it's so nice.

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Postby Chancellor » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:24 am

Curious if any of you have a light colored horse. My student has a palomino Morgan...and the footing in the indoor arena is GGT (so fairly light colored). We have been fairly unsuccessful in getting Pivo to follow her in the indoor.

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Postby blob » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:24 pm

Chancellor wrote:Curious if any of you have a light colored horse. My student has a palomino Morgan...and the footing in the indoor arena is GGT (so fairly light colored). We have been fairly unsuccessful in getting Pivo to follow her in the indoor.


Oh that is interesting! I suspect RP would have the same issue. Though, you'd think the rider + saddle would create enough of a distinction that it would at least follow tht!

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Postby Chancellor » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:19 pm

NOPE! I tried having her use a black saddle cloth to make more of a contrast. Didn't help. It's annoying since outside it works pretty well...not perfectly...but better than nothing!
Working outside, though, is not going to be an option much longer for us here in the northeast. And since this is 2020, it's probably going to snow in October!

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Postby goldhorse » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:23 pm

I have a palomino Morgan too! It's working well outdoors on dark grey, light grey, and tan footings. I can't speak to indoors since we don't have one. My saddle pads are dark purple, orange, or beige and that hasn't made a difference.I need to try it now that he's body clipped and looks like a Cremello. So long as I place it in the judge's stand so that I'm always at least 5-10 meters away, I've had success. If I pass right next to it, it loses me and then looks for another horse. iphone 11pro

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Postby Ryeissa » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:33 pm

tanga is our resident rock star in her tie dye sleeveless- so fun to see everyone's home arenas..... Looking good!
It snowed today so I'm super jealous.

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Postby Tanga » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:52 pm

I have the opposite issue. My horses are all dark, and if a light horse is in the arena, it leaves me and follows them whether it's full sun or shade! It also likes movement and sound, so if it sees a car on the road, it leaves me, and sometimes it turns around like it heard something behind it. Sometimes it just doesn't want to follow and I found closing down the app and starting again is what works.

Here's a video from the other day. Not the best riding because I was spending a lot of my time looking to see if it was following me. I usually don't even try to video when there are other people in there. You can see it really want to follow the grey and the buckskin. If there is any movement, I spend a lot of time going back to get its attention. But, I use it a lot and it helps me a lot. https://youtu.be/2qpvBdbNl4o

I would think it would love the palomino.

Thanks, Ryeissa. I am in a racerbank tank because it is HOT here. Over 100 and the sun is setting at 6:30! Luckily it's supposed to cool back down. You can check out my fancy smancy breeches that are actually more patches than the original breeches. I can't stand throwing them away, si I patch until they are unpatchable.

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Postby StraightForward » Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:46 am

Thanks for sharing Tanga. A barnmate and I are splitting the cost of a Pivo so I ordered it during Prime Day. It's sitting on my dining room table; hopefully Sunday we can meet up and see how it works. She has a bay and a palomino, then my two chestnuts, who I'm concerned might not have enough contrast against the plain wood walls of the indoor.
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Postby Tanga » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:20 am

OMG. New Pivo news. It was 100 again today, so I rode later in the shadows. Pivo did NOT like that. It kept turning around randomly and looking at the barn or road. Then, as it was dark, I turned on the outdoor arena lights. That did not work at all. Maybe it's because both horses are dark, but I wasn't getting anywhere, even disconnecting and starting again.

Straightforward--You will really like it. The how to videos are pretty straight forward and easy. Let me know how it goes in the indoor. Ours is so small and crowded I never ride in there unless it's empty in the most extreme weather.


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