How would you fix this in a horse?

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How would you fix this in a horse?

Postby Ganas » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:53 pm

In a horse that has been ridden this way? I think this is a great little video, around 2:10 it shows the error quite clearly.
https://youtu.be/WQWNHepTKzM

Demi arret and transitions would be my go to, I would think.

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Re: How would you fix this in a horse?

Postby piedmontfields » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:26 pm

Uh, step one: Ditch the curb.

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Re: How would you fix this in a horse?

Postby Ganas » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:44 pm

Lol, well, yeah.

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Re: How would you fix this in a horse?

Postby Ryeissa » Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:59 pm

the video I see is a western horse, not a dressage horse???

Warwick is a natural horsemanship trainer.

how I would fix it? good question. it sort of depends on that horse, better to ride it and then form a plan.

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Re: How would you fix this in a horse?

Postby Chisamba » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:27 am

what are we fixing? i did not see any riding

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Re: How would you fix this in a horse?

Postby Flight » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:13 am

The shifting the weight forwards and down? It's a nice demonstration of how you can be driving a horse onto it's forehand hey!

I followed Warwick's stuff for quite a while, actually have just stopped the subscription this month as I'm doing ok now.
Anyway, his way of teaching collection to his reining horses is very much about getting the horse to engage it's hind legs and bend it's hocks. I was pretty impressed watching it, having no real idea about western horses. I just thought they ran around with their heads down, but he wants them very engaged! It's quite cool.

He would have taken this horse and rider back quite a few steps to show how/what he's after.

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Re: How would you fix this in a horse?

Postby Chisamba » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:12 pm

well, i was not sure if they were trying to make a western horse look dressage, of if the discussion is intended to be about training.

the whole goal of good training is to teach the horse, who IRL spends most of its life with its head down and the majority of weight on the forehand, ( grazing) to carry its weight equally over each leg. and better carry the weight of a rider, regardless of whether the end result be to jump, go western, or do traditional dressage.

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Re: How would you fix this in a horse?

Postby Flight » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:13 am

That's right Chisamba, even though Warwick is western and has the neck lower, he still wants the weight carried behind. Well, you see how far under the hind end comes in those sliding stops!

He teaches the rein back with no leg, just off a light hand aid.


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