khall wrote:Only the most recent video of PK on the black horse do I like what I see of him, but he does have lots of followers.
That may have been the video I saw. Just exquisite.
Some other trainers who do not use and condemn the use of SRs (but most don't show so that may not fit your criteria tsavo):
No that fits my criteria... correct training. Showing is not relevant to my argument.
Karen Rohlf (I am sure she probably used them when she was mainstream dressage, but since combining NH and dressage a definite no), Anja Beran (who is my favorite trainer of any I've listed, her trainer Manuel Jorge de Olivera worked with NO), Manola Mendez (not one of my favorites but his system is kind to horses for sure, known for piaffe/passage) Magali Delgado (of Gallop to Freedom and Cavalia fame) she does show FEI also love her and her husband's work. The Straightness Training do not use SRs nor snaffles, just caveson and caveson with curb. Jillian Kreinbring famous for her biomechanics knowledge.https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... cEkw22vJDs
some nice work shown here IMO.
Okay there are known quantities in that list who don't use side reins though I think it might be relevant if they learned with side reins.
I am in the camp of no SRs, I have used them in the past but not for many years now. I just don't see the need for them anymore with the work that I do that I learned from Mark. There were on occasions where Mark would suggest just an outside SR to keep Rip from bulging out the outside shoulder, I would try it and just not like what it did for him so would discontinue.
There are people who use them to very good effect. That is not an argument that they are needed but it is an argument that they can be used to good effect.
The in hand work I saw from Arthur Kottas IMO was not horse friendly nor useful. Trying to do SI with the caveson and SRs was not very easy. The in hand work I learned from Mark is way more horse friendly and can do so much more work with the horse than the in hand work we saw from AK.
Well at least he was using SI. I certainly hope PK does but I am not clear on that point.
I wonder if Graf, Hester, etc. use side reins. There is also another Iberian dressage rider who is just exquisite and I can't remember his name. He also does jumping at the highest level. He is amazing. I wonder if he uses side reins.