Update/Chisamba thread

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Update/Chisamba thread

Postby Abby Kogler » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:15 pm

I have been reading but not posting much, other voices speak eloquently so I just 'like' and go on. But Chisambas thread, and an extra hour this morning, motivate me to update a bit.

I still have such issues with my foot, with recurring infections and another surgery for August. I got a diagnosis of RSD (Regional Sympathetic Dystrophy) , bleah. What an interesting and unpleasant syndrome that is. But I am reasonably functional and I work around it as best I can. In the grand scheme of things it could be way worse.

I did want to post a couple of photos from the Bertrand Ravoux Legerete USA Trainer clinic program that I was accepted in to. I auditioned in October and though I was not able to ride a lot from then until the March clinic, I did what I could. I think the difference is pretty remarkable. George is a 25 yr old KWPN that was a Craigslist freebie as he had been lame and reactive and his owner who loved him had a bad bucked off injury from him and was afraid to ride him again.

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George is a 25 yr old KWPN.

There are a lot of opinions about Phillipe Karl and Legerete and there are people who do not understand it and have been forceful and ugly trying to 'make' horses 'give' the jaw. Its very sad that these people have given the work a bad reputation in some circles.

George was heavy, a terrible puller, fancy with a nice career to 3rd, needed to be held in a double. He gets more and more fun to ride and just look at the difference in his body.

And as an aside to some posters here, a lot of the work, because of my foot and my knee, I could only walk, and I rode bareback for a lot of it.

Its not easy, but its very worth it to me. I think it is the best way to get the lovely trots of old and a lovelyier passage; I don't like that jerky hovering thing that passes for passage these days. I don't care if I never show at this point although I would still like to try; just seeing and feeling the difference in George and the others is so gratifying.

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Re: Update/Chisamba thread

Postby Flight » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:38 pm

Lovely photos and sounds like you've made a big difference to George :)

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Re: Update/Chisamba thread

Postby Chisamba » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:46 pm

Glad you are feeling well enough to still be riding. I'm constantly learning how much can be done at the walk

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Re: Update/Chisamba thread

Postby demi » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:48 pm

He looks much better in the second photo. I love seeing horses as they start to bloom, and your work is making a very nice difference in George’s appearance. He looks happy enough in the first pic, but he looks engaged in the second pic.

Thanks for sharing and I look forward to more pictures in the future.

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Re: Update/Chisamba thread

Postby kande50 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:43 pm

Abby Kogler wrote:I don't care if I never show at this point although I would still like to try; just seeing and feeling the difference in George and the others is so gratifying.


My hope is that more "Classical" trainers will show even if they don't get the big scores, because I think the only way that judges will start to reward the kind of dressage that helps keep horses sound is if they see tests that are consistent with what the rules describe.

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Re: Update/Chisamba thread

Postby Abby Kogler » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:07 pm

I scribe periodically and I do hear most judges giving lower scores for horses BTV, for stretchy circles where the nose goes down and in rather than out, for curled necks and tight backs...so they are out there.

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Re: Update/Chisamba thread

Postby kande50 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:22 pm

Abby Kogler wrote:I scribe periodically and I do hear most judges giving lower scores for horses BTV, for stretchy circles where the nose goes down and in rather than out, for curled necks and tight backs...so they are out there.


I wonder if the huge scores we see for curled necks and tight backs is way more about bringing horses along so fast that the curled necks and tight backs make up the majority of horses that get to the upper levels, so that's all the judges have to judge? It doesn't explain why the scores are so high for such poor work, but that could be about pressure on the judges to keep the $$$$$ flowing in?

I think when it comes to making money the welfare of the horses often becomes irrelevant.

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Re: Update/Chisamba thread

Postby Tuddy » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:39 pm

This is beautiful Abby - please keep us posted. :)


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